Can We Avoid a Population Collapse Without Throwing Women Under the Bus?

by James Wallace Harris

Most countries around the world are worried about a population collapse that will destroy their economies and social systems. I’ve been worried about overpopulation since the 1960s, but now economists are warning us that capitalism is doomed if we don’t have more babies. Every country’s economic wellbeing depends on GDP growth. That might be impossible if birthrates continue to shrink.

The replacement birthrate to keep the population the same is around 2.1 children per woman, or 2,100 children per 1,000 women. In the U.S., we had 1,626 births per 1,000 women in 2024. At that rate, if we exclude immigration, the United States will fade away. Here are the U.S. population number by decade for the next 400 years.

YearPopulation (in millions)
2025341.7
2035330.5
2045319.8
2055309.5
2065299.6
2075290.0
2085280.8
2095271.9
2105263.3
2115255.0
2125247.0
2135239.3
2145231.8
2155224.6
2165217.6
2175210.9
2185204.4
2195198.1
2205192.0
2215186.0
2225180.2
2235174.6
2245169.1
2255163.8
2265158.6
2275153.5
2285148.6
2295143.8
2305139.1
2315134.5
2325130.0
2335125.6
2345121.3
2355117.1
2365113.0
2375109.0
2385105.1
2395101.3
240597.5

If we follow the trends of other countries that have even lower replacement birthrates, we’d shrink even faster. If we became like South Korea, we’d shrink to half our population by 2100.

At some point, we’d reach zero population. From an ecological point of view, I’d think the Earth would be better off without so many people. However, capitalism, and our support systems like Social Security depend on growth.

To solve this problem requires women having more babies. Because some women can’t have children, most women would need to have three children. That’s quite burden to put on women. Countries around the world with declining birthrates are trying various incentives to get women to have more children, but so far, those incentives aren’t working.

Can We Have Capitalism Without Growth?

What if it’s time to think about shrinking the population? What would be a sustainable population regarding the environment? Let’s just say the world would be much better without only one billion people. Could we come up with an economic system that didn’t depend on growth?

Humanoid robots are enterting the workforce. Could they take up the GDP slack for fewer people? Are there other methods to generate economic growth without people? The U.S. economy depends on consumerism. Can we create an environmental steady-state economic system that creates abundance?

How Many People Do We Need?

If we allowed ourselves to shrink the population to one billion humans, to keep from continuing to shrink, we’d be back to needing women having 2,100 children per 1,000 women. That means every woman needs to have two children, and one in ten needs to have three.

Since the second wave of feminism and the creation of the birth control pill, women have chosen to have fewer children. We have to assume that’s what they want as individuals. Then is it fair to put the burden of reproduction on one gender? What if we had a society where every individual is responsible for raising their replacement? How would we force males into having kids?

Conservatives and some women are now proposing that women go back to being full-time mothers. What if most women don’t want to become mothers? Could we create a Brave New World type society where children are grown in test tubes and vats? That would allow males to have children.

This is a great idea for science fiction, but I’m not sure if it will ever happen.

What If Some Women Were Willing to Have Lots of Children?

Some women do like having children. If half of women were willing to have four or five children, and maybe a quarter of them have one child, that would allow one quarter of women to have no children.

Curently, in the U.S. 57% of all adults under 50 choose not to have children. That means we wouldn’t have enough women wanting children. Current incentive programs for woman to have more children are failing. Is there anything governments could do to convince women to have more children?

Universal guaranteed incomes are often discussed nowadays because of growing automation. What if women were guaranteed a significant income for having children? Say $75,000 a year for each child.

There is a meme going around where pretty women claim they are too beautiful to work. I don’t know how big this movement is, but it seems some women have decided that careers are not fun and they’d rather be stay-at-home moms. But as critics have pointed out, this plan only works with Mr. Right who makes a lot of money. How many women would choose a career of raising babies if they made $225,000 a year by raising three children, or $450,000 a year for raising six?

Think about how this would change our society? I have no idea if this is a good idea, but it sounds like it could make a fun science fiction story. How would this change society for males? It might make marriage more appealing. However, it would shift the power to women, and males might not like that.

However, with robots taking over everyone’s jobs, raising babies might become a new growth industry.

I’m just speculating here. If population collapse is a real problem, then we need to think of solutions. Conservatives are hell bent to bring back the large traditional family, but I doubt that will fly anymore. I think it’s obvious that many women don’t want to be moms to large broods.

How far are conservatives willing to go to recreate large families? Would they back $75,000 per child incentive? How many men would be willing to stay at home and raise children and let their wives have careers? How many people of either gender want careers? Would such an incentive balance out the responsibility of child raising if the incentive is paid to females and males? Do child raisers need to be married?

I suppose there could be new kinds of marriages, like limited partnerships. Conservatives would probably propose the incentives be payable only to married couples. Would they allow gay couples? What about two older people who are just friends and need to make some money? Maybe we need to redefine marriage as a legal bond to raise children.

Because robots and AIs are taking over everyone’s jobs, raising babies is one job they can’t have. Or could they? I suppose we could create robotic mothers and fathers to raise human babies that have been conceived in test tubes and gestated in vats.

There’s lots to think about.

I’ve thought of one other thing. What if humans are choosing not to have babies but raise robots instead? What if robots are our evolutionary replacements? If that’s the case, then population decline is right on time.

JWH

12 thoughts on “Can We Avoid a Population Collapse Without Throwing Women Under the Bus?”

  1. As a resident of a sub-Saharan African country, it’s hard to wrap my head around the idea of population decline as a problem. That may well come sooner or later, but not in my lifetime. In my country, the population is still growing, and millions don’t have adequate housing.

    1. I think African countries are the main examples of birthrates greater than 2.1. But demographic experts expect birthrates to change even there eventually. It all depends on when societies allow women to make their own choices.

  2. Ursula Le Guin once remarked that it is as difficult to envision a world without capitalism as it once was to envision a world without the divine right of kings. I think that’s a better direction to think towards (not that I have any answers or game plans).

  3. Fascinating analysis of the population decline challenge! 🌍 As someone working in education and personal development, I appreciate how you’ve approached this complex issue with both economic and ethical considerations. The proposed $75k per child incentive is an intriguing thought experiment that highlights the need for innovative solutions beyond traditional frameworks. Your point about robots and AI potentially being our evolutionary successors particularly resonates – perhaps the future lies not in population growth but in sustainable coexistence with technology. Have you considered exploring how educational systems might need to evolve to prepare for such societal shifts? #FutureOfSociety #PopulationTrends

  4. Hi James,

    It’s been a while since I’ve commented on one of your topics. Then I see ‘Population Collapse’…well. I’m back. 😊

    Demographics has been an interest of mine for over 50 years. It’s a topic that rarely gets much attention with all of the rest that is going on. I’m not sure if you are a Michael Smerconish watcher? In any case he produced a piece for his recent Sunday episode on just this topic. His commentary was tied to the Trump idea of bringing back manufacturing jobs to the US. The question was…where are you going to find the people to work in these factories and plants? With the economy at nearly ‘full employment’ what are the nest steps? Fast track emigrants with specific skill sets to do this work. Will enough respond accordingly?…maybe so

    Immigration has been the saving grace of western 1st world nation states, at least for now. As you pointed out, not the case for more homogeneous societies without a robust immigration policy. Japan entered the 5th and final stage of demographic collapse 2-3 years ago. South Korea is there now and Taiwan to follow. It was only 10 years ago when Angela Merkel implemented the Syrian resettlement plan. Many were wondering what was she up to? The Chancellor new if she didn’t act know the German economy would begin to decline in the face of falling birth rates.

    That’s the whole point,…without the requisite ‘pairs of hands’ the standard of living that we have come to enjoy and indeed expect would be in jeopardy

    In my view we’ll need a measured formula of immigration/AI/robotics, as well as managed expectations around what a real standard of living will look like going forward. The role of women will not be part of this equation. That ship has sailed. low Total Fertility Rates (TFR) are here to stay

    The only other option is State Managed Reproduction (SMR) as we are just not getting it done on a voluntary basis. This dystopian scenario would only work as a very last resort, and we can only imagine what that type of society would look like.

    Finally, the fact remains the human race is heading toward extinction, a far cry from those days in the late 60’s and early 70’s when we though there were too many of us. Ironically enough we were already in decline since 1958 (peak of the baby boom)

    I’m always the optimist. Humans are pretty good at survival. If our reproductive success is any measure we’ll find a way that works. The world will be a different place, however survival will dictate the means to get there.

  5. There are way too many humans exploiting too few resources… imagine if the robots decided capitalism was the enemy, & changed the whole global economy? Maybe that’s another blog post?

  6. Doesn’t this seem a bit unfair? This opinion was curated without any consideration to the current and historically prevalent social climate where women have been systematically oppressed; childbirth has been an aspect of this. We can’t expect for stay-at-home-mums and housewives to just stop being a thing where traditionally, women have been unable to work and keeping them at home was a way to reduce their social/political power. With the rise of conservatism in recent years, it’s inevitable that more people are talking about this option.

    Additionally, there has been very little attention given to women in healthcare and if a capitalist competitive society really does expect women to give birth more, more should be done about a woman’s status during and after pregnancy as well as the difficulties of the pregnancy journey. Many companies don’t hire young women out of fear that they would take a maternal leave soon so one of the ways a modern woman protects themselves is not having children.

    I like some of your writing but I think sometimes you overlook systemic oppression especially in relation to women and the patriarchy.

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